Episode 20

Why Ownership Drives Innovation and Collaboration

Published on: 10th July, 2025

How can police and community leaders cultivate a culture where ownership is safe and encouraged?

This episode explores what it really means to take ownership—within a police department, an organization, or a community. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the cultural shifts required to move away from entitlement and toward responsibility and empowerment. With practical stories and honest insights, they offer tips for building systems where trust, collaboration, and innovation thrive.


Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 


(0:00) Defining Ownership in Organizations

* How ownership connects to outcomes and organizational vision.

* Reframing ownership as a responsibility to people and culture.


(6:37) Leadership, Fear, and Entitlement

* How entitlement stems from disconnection and blame.

* The need for leaders to confront fear and create safe environments.

* Henry Ford’s quote: “'Why is it every time I ask for a pair of hands, they come with a brain attached?”


(13:18) Creating Cultures of Safety and Risk

* What leaders can do to support new ideas.

* How organizational structures squash creativity.


(16:49) Real Stories of Ownership 

* Police officers redesigned the master officer program based on impact, not paperwork.

* Community members launched a citizen patrol program with police support.


(24:57) The Benefits of Ownership

* How ownership leads to trust, innovation, and community safety.


This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 


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Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:


Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 


Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 


Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 


The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 


Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 


Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.


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This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

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Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT
Welcome to Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT, a podcast dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Through meaningful conversations and insights from experts, this podcast emphasizes that both citizens and police are part of the community, aiming to foster unity and build trust through partnership.

Beyond the Bandaids helps you rediscover this purpose and make a real difference by looking within and fostering deeper community connections. Instead of focusing on symptoms or past problems, we concentrate on creating a future where lasting, positive changes are not just possible, but probable.

For community members, Beyond the Bandaids offers a hopeful perspective on collaboration and compassion. Together, we can create vibrant, thriving neighborhoods where everyone plays a role in public safety and well-being. Join us as we explore transformative conversations and pave the way for a safer, more harmonious future for all.

Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you in partnership with the Law Enforcement Action Partnership, New Blue, and The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship, and Service (SOSSAS).

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