Episode 11

Seeing Through The Lens Of Goodness

Published on: 8th May, 2025

How can shifting from a problem-solving mindset to a possibility-focused mindset transform policing and communities?

This episode explores how seeing through the lens of goodness can transform public safety and community relationships. Mike, Carol, and Kristin share real-life examples of neighborhoods that became safer through engagement, trust, and collaboration rather than increased enforcement. 


Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 


(05:26) Building a Strength-Based Police Department

* The importance of compassion over punishment in law enforcement training.

* How traditional policing often reinforces negative cycles. 


(17:06) Finding and Supporting Community Champions

* How change agents emerge in both police departments and neighborhoods.

* How New Blue identifies and supports forward-thinking officers who seek systemic change.


(28:27) Transforming a High-Crime Neighborhood

* A story of a gang-infested neighborhood that went from 150+ calls per month to fewer than five, through community-led initiatives.

* The role of shared vision and persistence.


(44:00) When Communities Bring Goodness into Policing

* How an activist leader helped transform police-community relations by focusing on gifts instead of grievances.

* How meaningful engagement changes officers’ perspectives and builds trust.


This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 


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Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:


Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 


Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 


Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 


The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 


Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 


Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.


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This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

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About the Podcast

Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT
Welcome to Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT, a podcast dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Through meaningful conversations and insights from experts, this podcast emphasizes that both citizens and police are part of the community, aiming to foster unity and build trust through partnership.

Beyond the Bandaids helps you rediscover this purpose and make a real difference by looking within and fostering deeper community connections. Instead of focusing on symptoms or past problems, we concentrate on creating a future where lasting, positive changes are not just possible, but probable.

For community members, Beyond the Bandaids offers a hopeful perspective on collaboration and compassion. Together, we can create vibrant, thriving neighborhoods where everyone plays a role in public safety and well-being. Join us as we explore transformative conversations and pave the way for a safer, more harmonious future for all.

Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you in partnership with the Law Enforcement Action Partnership, New Blue, and The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship, and Service (SOSSAS).

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