A Different Philosophy of Justice

How can communities and police departments work together to move beyond quick-fix solutions in public safety?

This episode explores a different philosophy of justice that emphasizes healing, accountability, and community engagement. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss why traditional punitive systems fail and how restorative approaches can build safer, more connected communities. Together, they highlight solutions that promote responsibility, reduce recidivism, and foster genuine public safety.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The limitations of "bandaid" solutions in public safety and policing.

* Why changing police chiefs or adding body cameras isn’t enough.

* The importance of community engagement in public safety solutions.

* How restorative justice offers an alternative to punitive models.

* Why traditional systems struggle to lower recidivism rates.

* The role of neuroscience in justice reform.

* How victims' voices are often missing from the justice process.

* Examples of successful community-police partnerships, like Evanston’s Care Card program.

Chapters: 

(01:03) What Does a "Bandaid" Solution Look Like?

(06:33) Historical Perspectives on Justice and Recidivism

(15:28) The Current Criminal Justice System

(23:05) Choosing Accountability vs. Forced Accountability

(30:29) Victim Healing and Community Voice

(38:42) Alternatives to Traditional Justice Approaches

(46:45) Proactive Community Engagement

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Care Card Program, Evanston, Illinois.

* Viktor Frankl’s book, Man’s Search for Meaning.

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Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

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